Wednesday, January 02, 2008

Philosophizing The Program

So this guy



and these guys



sold out this place



five nights in a row, and this guy



wrote an article about it.

The article suggests The Program's overwhelming success adds up to more than "Seattle really likes Blue Scholars a lot". Something deeper is going on here, says the author, Eric Grandy, hat-tipping his Stranger colleague Charles Mudede in postulating "a kind of sea change in Seattle, from being an indie-rock (or, historically, "grunge") town to something else[...]".

Those that follow The Stranger and its coverage of music will notice Grandy taking another cue from the Central District's Grand Philosopher: check out the quintessentially Mudede-style breakdown of hiphop into "the beat", "the rap", and "the sample".

It all goes to answer the question, "What did The Program mean? Like REALLY mean?"

22 comments:

Anonymous said...

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ndrwmtsn said...

ouch

DJ Nphared said...

yous a hoe matson!

ndrwmtsn said...

but what does that REALLY mean tho?

Lar said...

Negative Space

Architecture

Nietzsche

Dub

Lolita

Burial

Neeks said...

Read between the lines, matson.. Jeez...

Danny Glover said...

i think the name "Flotard" is hella hip hop

DJ Khaled said...

WE AINT FUCKING IN THE STREETS...WE FUCKING INDUSTRIES!

ndrwmtsn said...

i actually love visqueen

ndrwmtsn said...

i actually love visqueen

Sherpaco said...

The red man is drunk right now.

Katelyn said...

(insert photo of sexy African lady here)

NOW the Mudede spoof is complete.

Lar said...

LOL @ Flotard, I always thought the same thing! DeWdZ! Lil' Flowtard is a hyphy superstar waiting to happen!

I actually like Visqueen too.

I actually like Visqueen too.

The Program hasn't got time for this internets shit. Next year, me and Meinert in the Octagon!

Nathaniel said...

Brilliant marketing is what it was. It reminds me a lot of Sub-Pop throwing the "SUB-POP ULTRA-LAMEFEST" in the late 80's, where they threw a mini-festival and invited just about every band in Seattle to play, including ones who weren't on the label.

The music scene as a whole was the selling point, but the money and hype got directed at Sub-Pop.

Much like the Scholars. Meinert was a genius in this capacity, because I don't think any other tactics could've propelled the Scholars higher than they where they were.

You guys would know the answer to this better than me, but I kinda wonder how altruistic The Program is going to stay....

Is The Program going to turn into the next Brainstorm?

ndrwmtsn said...

i don't think it's important to evaluate the altruism behind The Program. 2 motivations for doing that: optimism or cynicism.

what did it mean, what was it supposed to mean...fuck that. what it WAS was good publicity for tons of local acts, plus the promotion of a general idea that b.scholars run this 206 rap shit.

as far as those things are concerned, le program is a huge success.

Mayor Greg Nickels said...

What's The Program? I obviously didn't get with it *snort snort snort* (holds belly while laughing with face pointed to the sky)

Anonymous said...

"We're all grown here.
Say what you want.
Believe it or not, we can take it."

there are some people who get all riled up if somewhere were to suggest that perhaps just maybe the scholars/CM/GT are creating a new scene...

creating in the sense that whatever was around in the late 90's and early 00's has transformed into something new with new fans, new music, new support, new coverage... a new scene!

Nathaniel said...

Well anonymous, I'm just not one of those fans. I own 2 Scholars records. I actually bought them. Rarely listen to them.

As someone who is an avid local music fan, (not just hip-hop) I roll my eyes at how it seems everyone *insists* that Blue Scholars had anything to do with building this scene. They're not even on my top 5 list of people who've built "The scene".

Only in this last year would I say they cracked the top ten. And a lot of that has to do with how they piggybacked onto a previously existing scene. The scene sold "The Program". Not the scholars.

If you think I wanted to see ANYBODY 5 nights in a row, you're insane. The Scholars didn't pack it in, the scene did.

All they did was just exploit it. Which in my last comment I mentioned as "genius". It's childish to paint it like "You're either *FOR* or *AGAINST* the Scholars."

I'm in the middle. Maybe a little on the positive side.

Anonymous said...

please don't mistake "scene" and "fanbase"

ae.k.ae said...

please don't mistake "shrewd marketing" with "creating a new scene."

Lar said...

Seattle fans are suckas
‘Oh maybe not me’ yeah you motherfucker
I think you need a little polish boy
You little college boy
You need to do the knowledge toy
You need to just wait in silence

Til you know about Jace & Silas, Jake’s & Vita’s
Source Of Labor, Ghetto Children & The Tribals
Black Anger & The Boom Bap Project
Everybody who was putting it down before the days when you couldn’t get clowned
Now everybody is safe from getting they cards pulled
In ’07 we gon’ start to
We ain’t chums you just shark food
Fix ya face & ya scarf dude
Cuz it’s bout to get dark soon
Dedicated to the lames & the marks too
Now stay tuned for the part 2…

Nathaniel said...

ae.k.ae, you just distilled my whole opinion in one sentence! Hilarious!